I post a lot on Twitter, probably too much. Much of it is not opinion, they're just interesting charts or stats, especially of collapsing stocks (not many flying to the moon these days).
Almost every time I Tweet about a collapsing stock somebody asks "are you buying?". And the answer is pretty much always no.
The one theory is that at the right price any stock is attractive - so a collapsing price may well make an unloved stock worth buying. But I do not agree with that sentiment at all. I only want to own quality, no dogs in my portfolio. So for me it doesn't matter what the price is - I want nothing to do with the stock, in fact I want nothing to do with the vast majority of stocks on the JSE for one reason or another.
There are of course exceptions. The few stocks that I do love and will buy more of if the price were to collapse, but that list is small - around twelve at most.
There is another point here, FOMO, I have covered this before. The belief is often that a 'great' collapsing stock will rebound with vigour and those 'lucky' enough to have bough at the bottom will find themselves instantly rich. But this seldom happens. Most collapsed stocks remain collapsed for a long time - if not forever.
So follow me on Twitter, enjoy the charts and other stuff I post. But don't ask me if I am buying. Likely if I am, I will mention it in the Tweet or you can check my portfolio here.
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Those once unstoppable high flying stocks that have come back to earth with a thud, now what?
We have a lot in our market right now; Aspen (JSE code: APN), Steinhoff (JSE code: SNH), MTN (JSE code: MTN), EOH (JSE code: EOH) and many more.
Firstly understand the difference between cyclical and non-cyclical stocks. The former is resources, construction - those sectors that will always experience boom and bust and here we should really be long-term trading them rather then bottom draw investing in them.
Secondly is to be careful when buying our high flying, unstoppable non-cyclical stocks. I may love a stock but if it's above my idea of a fair rice I simple won't pay the price. I wait, sometimes waiting years, for prices to be at my levels and then I'll buy. Sometimes like with Richemont* (JSE code: CFR) this works well when I was buying in the 80's some two years back. Other times like Woolies* (JSE code: CFR) I was buying from around 8850c all the way down to 6250c odd and then I stopped as I had full weighting and yet the stock went still lower. So manage the price you pay, you do not want to be the person who paid +R440 for Aspen and if you were ideally you want that to be one of many price points you paid with an overall much lower average price.
But that all said these unstoppable angels do sometimes fall from grace, so lets delve into that.
The first question is if this is naked fraud or horrid business that we (the market) had missed. With Steinhoff the answer was an easy yes to fraud. With MTN the answer is more complicated but my view at the time of the first Nigerian issues was that this was a massive failure on the part of management and that markedly changed the investment case - so I exited.
Woolies the issue is over paying for David Jones and again messing up on women's fashion. Both repairable and not likely to be terminally damaging, albeit most definitely expensive.
But what of Aspen? I think that the stock had got well ahead of itself with a PE of almost 40x just two years ago, wildly expensive but supposedly justified by HEPS growth that was around 30% a year. However nothing grows at 30% a year and this is the error I think the market has made. Aspen is maturing, all successful companies mature and when they do they rerate in terms of valuations (PE) but with Aspen the market seems to have been caught by surprise.
So in short;
Lastly, never just shrug and say "how much worse can it get?". It can get a lot worse, Steinhoff offered a +2000c exit last December when the news broke. Now it sub 300c.
Last last point. Within a diverse portfolio not everything is always going up - unless it's a stonking bull market.
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Often a company will offer you shares instead of receiving a cash dividend. Assuming you still like the stock (if you don't, then why haven't you sold it?) I always take the shares. The exception could be if I think valuations are crazy and there are other stocks with much better valuations to buy. Then I'll take the cash.
By taking shares you save on brokerage, likely very saving but further often times a dividend is not enough to actually reinvest economically. My brokers minimum of R100 brokerage for a trade at 0.5% means that I need to do a R20k trade to get an effective 0.5% brokerage. Sure I can save up the dividends or add them to other cash I may have in the account - but taking the shares is easy and brokerage free.
For tax purposes the free shares reduces your base cost price as the new shares come in at zero cost, so you have same total base cost but extra shares effectively meaning average purchase price is now lower. When you sell this new lower base cost will be used for tax purposes.
However you'll save a little on tax as DWT is 20% (this is what you would have paid on the dividend) and maximin CGT is 18%.
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A listener asked about net asset value (NAV).
Often when watching I hear a lot of market analyst talk about discounts to Assets, sometimes they say its bad sometimes they say its good. What does it actually mean when they say a share is trading at a discount to its assets or NAV, how is it calculated and is it good or bad?
NAV is the break up value of a company. If all assets were turned into cash and all liabilities paid off, what's left? Divided by the number of shares is NAV per share and sometimes called book value. We then relate the NAV or book to the share price and get a ratio between price and NAV often called the price to book (P/B) ratio.
Also note the difference between tangible NAV which excludes intangible assets such as brand value and good will. I prefer tangible NAV.
As a rule a share trades at a premium to NAV as you're not buying the break up value of a company but the future earnings and cash flow. Different industries will have different premium, banks typically max out at around 2x while retailers at times 3-4x and miners anywhere from below 1 to 10x.
A valuation strategy is to consider stocks cheap when their NAV premium is lower than typical for that particular stock and lower than industry peers. Sasfin (JSE code: SFN) is a case in point. NAV is around 4400c and the longer term average is some 1.5x, so seems like a steal. Except the stock has now fallen to around 3400c!
Another strategy is to buy below NAV, essentially you're getting future earnings and cash flow for free. But is this value or value trap? Argent (JSE code: ART) has traded at around 50% below NAV forever and a day while The Don Group (now delisted) was at a chunky discount to NAV but that NAV kept melting away and the stock price kept on falling.
So a useful indicator but as always needs to be more than just one piece of data when buying a stock.
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